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Post by afcmoore on Mar 5, 2010 1:11:50 GMT
Hi Brendan. I would just like to thank you for your letter of guidance . I was just wonder if such a letter or one like it could be under signed by as many people as possible?
The reason i think this is because the club i support had such a letter and it was brought up by Blair in parliament and the result was not unfavorable. I would hope at least 200 members + guests and friends might sign. Regards Anthony.
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Post by joemurray on Mar 5, 2010 1:36:51 GMT
Its great to read the reactions from the forum members.I'm sure it must give some comfort to Tommy H. and family that all is not lost.I heard some report today on the radio of the 1000s of empty houses around the country.If the Dept.of Defence wishes to demolish all the houses on the Camp would it not be possible to buy up some of this surplus housing stock for ex army members?They would get rent ,look after them so everybody gains.But its hard to think of the Curragh Camp with no families living on it.Will the day come that us ex Curragh residents will no longer be able to take a walk around the place.Will it be reserved just for people in uniform ? What will happen to the school?Will it go the way of the cinemas,shops etc?. Thanks to Matt we will (from afar) be able to keep an eye on the Curragh even if we are powerless to save what used to be a vibrant community and town
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Post by Brendan on Mar 5, 2010 13:47:25 GMT
Anthony,
I encourage as many as possible to use the same format as mine and to sign it with your individual name. There is power in numbers. It's good to send the message on both sides of the island of our mother land.
Brendan
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Post by afcmoore on Mar 5, 2010 14:00:49 GMT
Hi Brendan. I would just like to say i have got help from a very source and i don't wish to put it on the Website . Regards Anthony.
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Post by guest on Mar 5, 2010 14:39:06 GMT
While I do agree with the general sentiments being raised regarding possible evictions I do feel that maybe this forum is not the correct vehicle for articulating our feelings. I feel that the forum is a social outlet and becoming involved in local, political and military issues is not appropiate. furtheremore the forum has among its members several serving soldiers and will such actions have any impact there or result in some centure being exercised on the forum . I really enjoy the forum and reading the various updates and I would not like to see it develop into soap box for dealing with local or political issues.
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Post by johnnykelly on Mar 5, 2010 15:28:31 GMT
Re: The Beginning of the End. Hi all. Hello Guest I am not aware as to whether or not you have lived or soldiered under the Shadow, but it is not only sentiment that is being raised but pure shock and horror to the unbelieveable Happy memories that we share of a once thriving loyal and strong family community that we see being destroyed unneccessary before our eyes, granted we must cortail our outporing of grief on the forum as some of us could get into trouble if the wrong message or thoughts are misinterpeted, as previously advised correctness and caution must be strictly adhered to, in order to maintain decoram and not to loose such a valauable forum . but the viocing of ones opinion and it is only an opinion cannot be denied once it is channeled correctly. bye for now. Johnny A TRUE SHADOWER UP THE CURRAGH.
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Post by Brendan on Mar 5, 2010 15:48:05 GMT
Dear Guest,
I disagree with you entirely. I have not read one comment that would implicate or jeopardize a serving soldier’s position. Soldiers have their hands tied to a degree when discussing military related matters. Soldiers are also citizens under the constitution and they, along with their civilian peers, have the right to express themselves when something is wrong.
The definition of FORUM speaks for itself; it allows us the opportunity to stand up for those who are unable to do so like the widows living in the camp who have NO voice. We are doing a disservice by staying silent. Just look what happened with the Church? Children were abused because of the same silence.
Speaking of silence, when one signs in without identifying oneself, and defines what the forum should be, that doesn’t make sense.
Just my thoughts.
Brendan
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Post by andybrennan on Mar 5, 2010 17:11:17 GMT
Perhaps you are right Guest guest,
May haps we should change it from Forum to Soap Box in order to allow every one their daily rant, What is a forum only an avenue to express ones views on all things dealing with life both sensitive and insensitive, as you are entitled to your opinion so are all others and it would not be much of a forum if people were not allowed to disagree or agree, I personally like to hear the views of all and I feel that I am capable of coming to a decision or view of my own I do not mind you using the alias Guest as others are also using alias' of their own.
I am sure there will be plenty of debate / discussions on this topic and others and long may that format reign as well as the levity, banter ,reminisces snaps etc which make it a most interesting read for me at least, some very sharp dudes on this site,
I am awaiting to see who will take up the gauntlet of Devils Advocate on this subject now that should raise the hackles.
Andy
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Post by Eileen on Mar 5, 2010 18:04:29 GMT
Hello Guest, guest,
If you enjoy reading all of our posts on the forum then why not join us by registering and sharing your own memories of if and when you lived in the Curragh.
Regards.
Eileen
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Post by andybrennan on Mar 5, 2010 18:20:00 GMT
Hi Eileen
I have no problem with Guest Guest staying as Guest Guest He / She might have memories which may be to painful to share and there is no problem for me with guest Guest enjoying the offerings of the forum not unlike reading a fine book I would not particularly want to share my life with the author , there are some very private people out there , they just like to share in other peoples thoughts etc
Andy
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Post by Eileen on Mar 5, 2010 18:37:13 GMT
Hi Andy,
I have no problem with people viewing the site as a guest, it's always nice to encourage our fellow Curragh friends to share their memories with us - don't you think.
Kind regards.
Eileen
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Post by andybrennan on Mar 5, 2010 18:48:46 GMT
Eileen
I agree with you but only if they want to share those memories.
Andy
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Post by Brendan on Mar 5, 2010 18:59:22 GMT
Hi to All:
I had a very frank and open conversation with a gentleman from the Dept of Defence today. In summary, this is what he told me.
1. Only one person received a notice and they are pursing that for “justifiable” reasons. I don’t want to personalize it by stating the reasons.
2. They (Dept) are looking at each situation on a case-by-case basis.
3. There are 30 over holders under review.
4. They expect to issue a vacate notice by the end of April – they are waiting on a new minister to come on board.
5. Those who are affected will be given 4 months notice to vacate.
6. About 6-8 individuals will receive a notice to quit immediately based on non-payment of rent and/or electricity over a considerable time.
7. ALL widows will be given written assurance that they can live in their home until they die, but there will be no succession rights. Essentially the rights to the home will die with them.
8. Others who are in receipt of an income i.e., pension and other salary will be afforded the opportunity to be housed by the council. The Dept is negotiating this with Kildare County Council.
9. When the 4 months expires those who have not vacated will be issued with a court order to quit within 6 weeks thereafter.
10. This will be done as humanely as possible and no-one will be “put on the side of the road.”
Comments I am not going to give my personal opinion because I don’t think it is fair to do so. I’m reporting on the “facts” as presented to me. The only thing I will say is, I have no reason to disbelieve the man when he assured me that ALL widows will be allowed to live out their natural lives’ in the knowledge that they will never be displaced from their home. May they all live well past 100.
I would like to piggy-back on what Rose suggested by encouraging everyone to seek legal advice. If it’s true that each case will be considered on a case-by-case basis, I would also encourage those affected to reach out to their local politicians.
The gentleman told me that he will email me with updates. I hope this information is helpful.
Brendan
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Post by kellquinn on Mar 5, 2010 20:15:14 GMT
Hi Brendan Thats exactly the same reply received here, it would sem that we have the same contacts, or else the situation is widely known throughout the circles. Regards JKelly
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Post by tommyhetherington on Mar 5, 2010 20:17:42 GMT
Hi all, Guest your view is welcome because this is what a forum is and I think if everyone agreed it would be pretty boring. A point about this topic we are not here to discuss the Army or its workings we are concerned about our community our history our families. We have a passion about the Curragh that runs deep and are hurt and offended in the way this is been handled. I have voiced an opinion and let members of the forum know what is happening so how can there be a problem with that. Politicians send post to me in work with my rank and army number on the envelope and stand on my doorstep at election time, so if I have a problem I will contact them I helped them get a Job.Now if I was preaching hatred or advocating anarchy our abusing people then yes I am in trouble. Last year it was the church and schools that got a good debate on the forum this year so far its people their homes and futures and the reason politics is discussed is that it is the root cause of this problem, so bear with it guest next month the topic will change and maybe I will not like it but others may but I will not tell them to stop. Tommy H
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