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Post by Eileen on Mar 1, 2010 21:53:23 GMT
Hi Anthony,
I'm so pleased that we are all in agreement to fighting for our very own lovely Curragh friends and family. Once we get the proof then we can start the action needed to get just rights for our people.
Eileen
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Post by andybrennan on Mar 1, 2010 22:04:27 GMT
Hi Tony
Yes you are right there are some very smart people on this site what is required is some one with the smarts to put a spin on the situation that would equal those of our illustrious ministers
Andy
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Post by Eileen on Mar 1, 2010 22:15:04 GMT
Hi Andy,
I really do think that you can put our case forward, you are so eloguent with your wise words.
Eileen
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Post by anncu7hane on Mar 1, 2010 22:30:46 GMT
Hi all They want the camp as a military camp, they dont want familie's, so I was thinking will they get rid of the school's to Ann Culhane
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Post by andybrennan on Mar 1, 2010 22:39:52 GMT
Eileen
Thanks for the sympathy vote but there are some real scribes on this site who have the way with the words, even at that tis some one with the art of bending and shaping the words to mean many things that is needed and I have no doubt that the cream will rise but tis not I. Rose Brendan whose input I miss as not heard from for a while Joey MaryF are but some, Kentgal another, whose input missed. all excellent with the quill and the prose
Andy
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Post by joemurray on Mar 1, 2010 22:56:23 GMT
Regarding the promise from two Ministers re.Curragh Homes.Some smart persons said years ago "A verbal agreement is not worth the paper its written on"In other words these TDs can say anything and once its not in writing it means nothing.Wish I had some answers but I'm sorry to say I don't.I'm sad to hear of people loosing their homes.Houses they have lived in for most of their lives.I would think this country is in enough trouble at the moment.We have plenty of empty houses and apartments.Once they were the property of builders now they are the banks and we the people have bailed out the banks.So why cant something be done
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Post by afcmoore on Mar 1, 2010 23:25:19 GMT
Hello People Power. We have to get a petition on the website and then get people to post and sign a protest. The question is it may not be possible to use this site as it may make lots of trouble for Matt. The thing is a very knowledgeable person needs to word the protest FOA the powers in the Irish government. I think it would be good to get advice from your local TD. Volunteers to get as many signatures as possible in the towns of Kildare first and then further afield i know its a big ask. Just think how many people has served in the Curragh Camp over the years and surly their kin would be sympathetic to the cause. The other thing is to find out the future plans that they have for the Curragh and why the present residents could not be accommodated within the plans. Like any development these days they have to create affordable rentable accommodation. Regards. Anthony.
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Post by johnnykelly on Mar 1, 2010 23:31:49 GMT
RE: THE BEGINNING OF THE END, Hi all yes indeed it is a sad time for the Families that are in Married Quarters inside the barriers on the Camp, I strongly suggest that a little research into gathering information is gathered first re anything in writing as is letters from what authorities or whom these letters are coming from to enable US the concerned to take proper action, because before going to Radio/Press to start up a campain we must have our facts right, This has always being a threat for over holders to quit quarters but after false promises all verbal we have no comeback at the moment. but with the correct information and evidence then we or other interested parties can rightly get the protest going, I have life long friends still living in the camp and after giving their devoted life and times to the betterment of the Curragh it is a disgrace. it was always a true saying that when serving you were only a number. and when your time was up good luck to you mister.
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Post by andybrennan on Mar 1, 2010 23:38:16 GMT
Hi Tony
there is no need to involve the site in any petition. each member in their own right can bombard the powers that be via e-mail or use the quill if prefered. I feel that they will fall on deaf ears regardless as I imagine it will be a secretary who will deal with correspondance. A plan of action is needed and some form of co- ordanation for the same so if there is a member with those qualities please step up to the plate as for my self am like one of the deciphels a follower.
Andy
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Post by maryfarrell6 on Mar 2, 2010 0:00:18 GMT
Hi Everyone, Well emotions are certainly running high and because of that I agree with Johnny and Andy whats needed before any action is taken all the facts,information needs to be gathered and then a well organised knowledgable protest can go ahead. Theres not point in rushing in all guns blazing only to find we've no ammunition or back up and fail at the first obstacle, because passion alone[and god knows theres an abundance of that on here] will sadly not win this battle. We need to be well informed and equipped to deal with any obstacle that crops up. That means we need people who can get access to all of this as well as get the views of the Curragh Residents themselves and to help co-ordinate all who want to help out here Bye for Now MaryF
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Post by afcmoore on Mar 2, 2010 0:14:58 GMT
Hi Joe. What a good idea its time the banks started putting something back. What do the banks create and where did they get their money and why are they getting bonuses? The banks gamble and sooner or later they are going to lose. Wealth comes from hard work and without the workers the people a the top can't survive. The workers have the power but they don't unite stop using the cars for two weeks watch petrol prices fall. The way things are going and when we hit the next dip what are the goverment going to do. The French had the right idea off with their heads. How hard do you have to work to earn 20 Million per year or just 1mill and at whoes expence who are they kidding and who are they robbing?Now if you fail to do the job right you get the sack if they fail to do their job they get a golden hand shake and cost you your job and thats why we are in the sh==t and until the balance is put right thats where we will remain . Cheers Anthony
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Post by andybrennan on Mar 2, 2010 0:18:04 GMT
A small step forward like we did when we played baby steps and giant steps. Let us approach this with baby steps 1 at a time at first. If one of our scribes could compile a letter containing the questions we want answered to start with and our concerns, then each member can pick up the phone book and get the e-mail address of our T.Ds etc and put that first piece of correspondance to them thus we would have an electronic record of their answers or those of some one responding on their behalf Let us pool our ideas and get a bit of an auld start your input please
andy
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Post by afcmoore on Mar 2, 2010 0:45:08 GMT
Hi Mary F. Well said a cool head is better than a hot one . I just wonder what is their legal right with the agreement they have ? I think if you occupy a dwelling over a number of years you must have rights? I think a good solicitor will find a loop hole and it will cost but we could try some research ourselves. The residents must have some agreements on paper and they will need to form an association. Like Andy I'm a follower we need a leader i will try a few things but i may be p==sing in the wind but one can but try. Regards Anthony.
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Post by Brendan on Mar 2, 2010 2:12:55 GMT
Hi to All:
I've been having periodic outages where I live due to 4 feet of snow being dumped on us over the last few days, hence I have intermittent connectivity to the Internet.
What the hell is happening at home? It's going from bad to worse. First we have the desecration of the land, now we have eviction notices for citizens who built this nation and made it was it is today. I would like to help out any way I can. I agree with the sages (Johnny and Andy et al) where planning and compiling facts is paramount in launching a successful campaign to have the notice delayed, if not rescinded.
I would like to propose a three phase strategy.
PHASE I We can take the first step in drafting a memo appealing to every TD in the country. I can compile their email address. Time is of the essence so the message must be short and powerful. I will draft the memo. I need you to solicit help from your family and friends to send email blasts to our elected officials. We also need a dozen or so people to call the offices of the TDs demanding them to put a stay on the eviction notices until. I can call from NY too.
IMMEDIATE NEED: Can someone supply a PDF file of the eviction notice and send it to me at bpdelaney@yahoo.com? You can blank out the name and the actual address of the recipient.
PHASE II Meanwhile we have to compile as many facts as possible to enable to launch the second and third phases of winning this battle. Sadly, we will have some objectors to this, so it is imperative to stick to 3-4 salient concrete points and facts.
PHASE III After gaining all the facts, I will gladly develop a document that specifies the deplorable treatment of our families and friends. I will send this to the national papers, radio shows. We need to identify at least two recipients who can show that they have made a good faith effort to move, but the system has repeatedly failed them miserably. Tommy H’s dad is a case in point. He exhausted all efforts to “DO THE RIGHT THING”, but he faced indifference and an unforgiving bureaucracy.
Feel free to send me as much information via email. Our approach must not waiver; we must be free of emotion and sic k with the cold hearted way our family and friends are being treated.
Together we CAN make a difference.
Brendan
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Post by andybrennan on Mar 2, 2010 6:50:43 GMT
Hi All
is this a leader yes,
Thanks Brendan I knew you would come through now if Tommy can get you a copy of that eviction notice away we go
Andy
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