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Post by QuinnFamily on Oct 19, 2015 7:38:56 GMT
Hi,
I am wondering if anyone can help me please as I try to trace members of a Quinn family who lived in Clarkes Bcks through the 1930's and early 40s. There were 5 children, William Anthony, Madeleine, Ronald, Kathleen and Joseph Raymond. Their Dad Joseph was in the Medical Corps and their mother, Kathleen died in 1940. I know its a long shot but if anyone remembers anything I would be most grateful. This family are my fathers first cousins however he knows nothing of them and I have spent 5 years trying to find them to no avail.
Thanks,
Dee
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Post by andybrennan on Oct 19, 2015 11:26:04 GMT
Hi Dee,
There is a Joseph Quinn in Married Quarters in Clarke 1931 to 1935, No 11 A Block
Army number 51308 Rank Pte Unit AMS.
No further info on him in Clarke,
There is also a H Quinn same unit No 5 Clarke .
1922 Census lists 10 Joseph Quinn.
If the above Joseph is your you can as next of kin get a copy of his records from Cathal Brugha
Will have a further look around later and get back to you if any thing further to add.
Andy
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Post by QuinnFamily on Oct 19, 2015 13:46:45 GMT
Andy,
Thanks so much for this, they did indeed live in A Block. The records contain a letter written by his wife.I was able to get his records but am unable to trace 4 of the children, the 5th one passed away before my search began. A mystery I am totally unable to crack!
I appreciate your quick reply.
Dee
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Post by andybrennan on Oct 19, 2015 16:09:46 GMT
Hi Dee,
As you have the names of the children and the mothers maiden name,
Have you tried Familysearch.org free to search, If they moved to England Free GRO searchable for free.
Find my past also a good search indicator without purchasing.
Have you googled the Quinn family tree you never know what might fall out of it, no pun intended.
were the children born in the Curragh if so you could invest in their baptism certs some times these contain info on marriage later in life.
just a few hints, you probably have tried them all.
Andy
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Post by QuinnFamily on Oct 19, 2015 19:04:27 GMT
Thanks Andy, I have everyone else on the family tree with the exception of this family and it's a large tree! I was able to trace one daughter however she died some years ago and her son knows nothing of his Irish family having been born and raised in London. Joseph did there just 4 years after he left the army following a 25 year stint with the medical corps. His obit says he join in 1922 having been a volunteer in 1917/18 and then been interned until 1921 following a bad "beating during the Black and Tan terror" .
I am delighted to make the connection with the birthplace of these cousins, my search continues to hopefully find them,
Many thanks for your time and help,
Best wishes
Dee
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Post by andybrennan on Oct 19, 2015 21:34:37 GMT
Hi Dee,
If Joseph enlisted in 1922 then he should be on the military census for that year there are ten Joseph Quinns mentioned, with NOK and addresses.
I have the following born in Kildare,
William Anthony 1931
Madeline L 1932
Ronald 1934
Kathleen 1938
Joseph Raymond 1940
Mother maiden name Brien/ O'Brien died 1940
Sorry not much more help.
Andy
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Post by QuinnFamily on Oct 20, 2015 10:13:32 GMT
These are the children I am looking for. Madeline Lauri was the only one I could trace and that was from her marriage records in London in 1951 however she died about 15 years ago. I was able to make contact with her son who knew nothing of his Irish family or connections. Given the dates of birth, I would have hoped I could find some of them. Their mother died while they were very young and their father was still serving, I can see from correspondence that they were not under the guardianship of their father but don't know who took care of them.
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Post by andybrennan on Oct 20, 2015 18:38:49 GMT
Hi Dee,
yes I see two sons,
Ronald G Martin 1951
Tony D Martin 1956.
Just wondering was Joseph Quinn related to H Quinn also in Clarke Md Qtrs and same unit ASM.
Did Joseph remarry in London
Did Kathleen and the lads emigrate elsewhere from London or Ireland.
Have you tried cousin connect.
or Roots chat.
even f.b.
Andy
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Post by QuinnFamily on Oct 21, 2015 11:08:45 GMT
Tried FB but not cousin connect, will check that out now, I have searched marriage/birth records in UK using their respective birth dates to estimate possible marriages etc but I am clutching at straws now, I don't know where they went, nor does my father who was in his teens at the time.
There is no connection to H Quinn, we have some in the tree but I have accounted for them.
Sounds like you have experience in terms of these searches , I am years working on this on and off and really want to crack it now.
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Post by andybrennan on Oct 21, 2015 20:04:45 GMT
Hi Dee,
no not that well up on it but a trier,
Took the liberty of posting this on roots chat forum,
Any info on Quinn Family
William Anthony 1931
Ronald 1934
Kathleen 1938
Joseph Raymond 1940
Parents Joseph, Mother Kathleen Nee Brien / O'Brien
Madeline L 1931 married Ronald G Martin in London 1951 ,
hope you do not mind.
you should try this site it is free but you must sign in and subscribe,
Andy
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Post by QuinnFamily on Oct 21, 2015 21:41:11 GMT
Thanks Andy , cousins connect wouldn't open for me and then reality took over. Will check out roots.
Really appreciate your help!
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Post by andybrennan on Oct 22, 2015 15:34:45 GMT
Hi Dee,
Re my last Roots will only accept new topic where people must be deceased so I modified to reflect only Madline and her parents,
If you go into it you will see it under Quinn Family Curragh Camp and as you have more information then I you can contribute, ie Was Kathleen mother Catherine or Mary on birth cert, you will get the idea when you see it.
Andy
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Post by Quinn Family on Oct 22, 2015 20:34:31 GMT
Marriage certificate is Mary Catherine Brien however further correspondence has her name as Kathleen O'Dea which is really confusing. The marriage cert appears within army records yet all other records note her as Kathleen O'Dea. Whatever about Kathleen /Catherine possible mix up, the surnames are vastly different.
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Post by Quinn Family on Oct 22, 2015 20:39:33 GMT
Also Joseph is Joseph George in some records and Joseph Henry in others to the point I did think there was a mix up in the records but his army no unifies all those documents . At one point I thought perhaps there a mix up in Quinns, you mentioned a H Quinn in the same barracks. Would it be at all possible that if they were both called Joseph that one of them would have had to use his second name to differentiate. Is there any chance Mary Catherine Brien is his wife and the records have been mixed up . I wonder what Henry's no was ?
Kathleen O'Dea is the mother of the children I am looking for and Joseph George was her husband. Could army records get mixed up?
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Post by andybrennan on Oct 22, 2015 23:18:12 GMT
William A Quinn
Ireland Civil Registration Indexes
Kathleen O'Brien you have
This is
Son of O'Dea
Name William A Quinn
Event Type Birth
Event Date Jul - Sep 1931
Event Place Naas, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Jul - Sep 1931
Registration District Naas
Mother's Maiden Name O'Dea
Volume Number 2
59694 PTE QUINN.H. (NO2 COY A.M.S.) 28/07/1932 13/07/1933
This is the other quinn
will look further over next few days
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